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	<title>Comments on: Common-Sensical Parenting</title>
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		<title>By: audiomind</title>
		<link>http://www.audiomind.us/blog/2006/06/07/common-sensical-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>audiomind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Agree And Disagree&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ahhhh.....nice one. :_}&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>ahhhh&#8230;..nice one. :_}</p>
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		<title>By: necrophonic</title>
		<link>http://www.audiomind.us/blog/2006/06/07/common-sensical-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>necrophonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Agree And Disagree&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think most mental health professionals tell YOU and ME what WE already know. It&#039;s the other 99% of the people that don&#039;t understand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like britney spears. They feed it to the mindless masses, and the mindless masses ask for more. It&#039;s not one side controlling the other, it&#039;s both sides feeding the other. It&#039;s symbiotic, not parasitic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Self perpetuating stupidity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If people were able to handle the blow of hearing that they have flaws, psychologists would have a simple pamplet that said &quot;sometimes you&#039;re stupid and you need to be less stupid sometimes.&quot; and most people would be able to take that information and apply it to their life.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But they&#039;re weak, and dumb, and need sometime to explain to them that kids are mini adults and have to be treated like adults. Cause, effect, action, reaction, consequence, responsibility... Not &quot;do it or you&#039;re gonna get hit&quot; without reason or logic.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But instead, they&#039;re just so damned dumb they need Dr. Phil to tell them about &quot;harming a kid&#039;s psyche&quot; and &quot;loving environments&quot; and &quot;NO is too strong a word&quot; and blah blah blah... And people are too dumb to even understand THAT.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Without the psychobabble we&#039;d be another 3rd world country with marriages at age 13, and 5 kids at age 15.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Y&#039;know, like in Arkansas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The true psychologists have to fight through the fairy tale media bullshit, the religious indoctrination, and the blatent stupidity of the common person before their message is heard, and that&#039;s after THEY battled it in themselves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s no wonder the idiot crackpots are winning.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I think most mental health professionals tell YOU and ME what WE already know. It&#8217;s the other 99% of the people that don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like britney spears. They feed it to the mindless masses, and the mindless masses ask for more. It&#8217;s not one side controlling the other, it&#8217;s both sides feeding the other. It&#8217;s symbiotic, not parasitic.</p>
<p>Self perpetuating stupidity.</p>
<p>If people were able to handle the blow of hearing that they have flaws, psychologists would have a simple pamplet that said &#8220;sometimes you&#8217;re stupid and you need to be less stupid sometimes.&#8221; and most people would be able to take that information and apply it to their life.</p>
<p>But they&#8217;re weak, and dumb, and need sometime to explain to them that kids are mini adults and have to be treated like adults. Cause, effect, action, reaction, consequence, responsibility&#8230; Not &#8220;do it or you&#8217;re gonna get hit&#8221; without reason or logic.</p>
<p>But instead, they&#8217;re just so damned dumb they need Dr. Phil to tell them about &#8220;harming a kid&#8217;s psyche&#8221; and &#8220;loving environments&#8221; and &#8220;NO is too strong a word&#8221; and blah blah blah&#8230; And people are too dumb to even understand THAT.</p>
<p>Without the psychobabble we&#8217;d be another 3rd world country with marriages at age 13, and 5 kids at age 15.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, like in Arkansas.</p>
<p>The true psychologists have to fight through the fairy tale media bullshit, the religious indoctrination, and the blatent stupidity of the common person before their message is heard, and that&#8217;s after THEY battled it in themselves.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder the idiot crackpots are winning.</p>
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		<title>By: audiomind</title>
		<link>http://www.audiomind.us/blog/2006/06/07/common-sensical-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>audiomind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 07:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Agree And Disagree&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though I might agree to an extent, don&#039;t you hold the belief that most mental health &#039;professionals&#039; tell us nothing more than what we already know and/or are fully capable of understanding?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Though I might agree to an extent, don&#8217;t you hold the belief that most mental health &#8216;professionals&#8217; tell us nothing more than what we already know and/or are fully capable of understanding?</p>
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		<title>By: necrophonic</title>
		<link>http://www.audiomind.us/blog/2006/06/07/common-sensical-parenting/comment-page-1/#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>necrophonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree And Disagree&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think on the one side, mostly the extreme left (in America, at least) tend to deify the pop-psychologist and treat their children like little flowers, protecting them and watering them like they were toys instead of miniture humans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the other side is probably just as bad, if not worse. Without the psychologists telling them that smacking them around is wrong, or that you can severely handicap a child&#039;s mental growth, you get the illiterate hillbillies or the fanatical fundamentalists, which are primarily populated by the extreme right or the lesser-educated among middle America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While it&#039;s easy to say that the psychological community has destroyed the parenting ability of today&#039;s parents, there had to be something that molded our 25-45 year olds into the dimwit sheep they are now, and that was probably how they were raised in the 50&#039;s-70&#039;s. And if their parents were listening to the psychobabble of the 50&#039;s and 70&#039;s, it&#039;s easy to see why they&#039;d have no clue, because psychology was really in its infancy, and in many ways, it&#039;s only in recent years gotten anywhere beyond the simple &quot;he&#039;s messed up because of that time when he was 5 when he got yelled at once&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Psychology as a field has been so demonized because it was mostly guesswork, and easy to exploit, especially in a country so faith-based that they&#039;ll believe any higher authority without question as long as it caters to their specific wants/needs/insecurities.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, that&#039;s no to say you&#039;re wrong, it&#039;s more to say that it&#039;s horrible that a legitimate field of study that has done so many great things for so many people has been destroyed by morons willing to exploit the stupidity of the common peasant for a quick buck.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks to such institutions as the American Medical Association, we&#039;ve done a lot to destroy the quack physicians that ran rampant in the mid-late 1800&#039;s, but it required mass amounts of research to set up definitive information to verify who was and wasn&#039;t a quack. The psychological community has less to work with, and can&#039;t be regulated as easily, especially with something as intangible as the &quot;psyche&quot;, which everyone disagrees about.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Give it another 200 years and it won&#039;t be that way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I think on the one side, mostly the extreme left (in America, at least) tend to deify the pop-psychologist and treat their children like little flowers, protecting them and watering them like they were toys instead of miniture humans.</p>
<p>But the other side is probably just as bad, if not worse. Without the psychologists telling them that smacking them around is wrong, or that you can severely handicap a child&#8217;s mental growth, you get the illiterate hillbillies or the fanatical fundamentalists, which are primarily populated by the extreme right or the lesser-educated among middle America.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s easy to say that the psychological community has destroyed the parenting ability of today&#8217;s parents, there had to be something that molded our 25-45 year olds into the dimwit sheep they are now, and that was probably how they were raised in the 50&#8242;s-70&#8242;s. And if their parents were listening to the psychobabble of the 50&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s, it&#8217;s easy to see why they&#8217;d have no clue, because psychology was really in its infancy, and in many ways, it&#8217;s only in recent years gotten anywhere beyond the simple &#8220;he&#8217;s messed up because of that time when he was 5 when he got yelled at once&#8221;.</p>
<p>Psychology as a field has been so demonized because it was mostly guesswork, and easy to exploit, especially in a country so faith-based that they&#8217;ll believe any higher authority without question as long as it caters to their specific wants/needs/insecurities.</p>
<p>So, that&#8217;s no to say you&#8217;re wrong, it&#8217;s more to say that it&#8217;s horrible that a legitimate field of study that has done so many great things for so many people has been destroyed by morons willing to exploit the stupidity of the common peasant for a quick buck.</p>
<p>Thanks to such institutions as the American Medical Association, we&#8217;ve done a lot to destroy the quack physicians that ran rampant in the mid-late 1800&#8242;s, but it required mass amounts of research to set up definitive information to verify who was and wasn&#8217;t a quack. The psychological community has less to work with, and can&#8217;t be regulated as easily, especially with something as intangible as the &#8220;psyche&#8221;, which everyone disagrees about.</p>
<p>Give it another 200 years and it won&#8217;t be that way.</p>
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